2005-07-26 [iCh3wi]: Naw, all this was recent, Whim was telling me about his new ideas.

2005-07-26 [Tear]: Oh, in that case..... Wow, it feels so good to be back.

2005-07-26 [iCh3wi]: thats guud

2005-07-26 [Tear]: Kinda funny how I get back here at like 2:30 in the morning, when i should be sleeping.

2005-07-26 [iCh3wi]: ar, its only 130 here, i dont go to bed till 4

2005-07-26 [Tear]: Aaack, I have work at 7:30 in the morning though, and I still have to wash dishes and take out the garbage

2005-07-26 [iCh3wi]: fun fun fun

2005-07-26 [Tear]: Not fun, lol. Working in an autoparts and service place sucks sometimes.

2005-07-26 [iCh3wi]: i know, i work in one, lol

2005-07-26 [Tear]: Yeah, I work at Pepboys. www.pepboys.com Anywho, I think i am idling for the rest of the night, because I need sleep. I'll just leave this open.

2005-07-26 [iCh3wi]: lol, later

2005-07-26 [Solitiaum]: 1. I mean that I want you to send me *not* the wiki coding, but what the wiki page says when you are done editing. 2. We are not expanding until we have what we've got under control and running smoothly.

2005-07-26 [iCh3wi]: Ah, now I understand. So after I hit "submit changes", I copy what each wiki says and send you that. Ok, thanks!

2005-07-26 [Tear]: Kate? This is with the website, yes?

2005-07-26 [Whim]: You work in a setting of deadlines and working for the people. Things will never be smooth and comfortable with the exception of the occassional “good day.” And what you have now is nice and all, but I’m not seeing much of a hooplah from the fans of the EPI, which implies to me that what you have now, only a few people care about.

2005-07-26 [Dwemer]: [Whim]: Is there any chance you could explain me what's going on? I tried to understand...

2005-07-26 [Tear]: He is going on a rant, lol, right, [Whim]? Just pointing out that the fanbase for our e-zine isn't what it should be.

2005-07-26 [Whim]: I’m saying that the EPI is just fine and dandy, but what good is it if there’s no one really reading it? For one reason or another, the EPI is not catching people’s attention. Worse than that is that when it does catch someone’s attention, it doesn’t keep that attention. You can make what you have now run as smoothly as you want, but if the fans don’t care, then it’s pointless. You’re only entertaining yourselves.

2005-07-26 [Tear]: That is why we are putting up a website for it, because we are really limited to what we can have up here at EP, whereas had we our own website, we have free reign to do what we can't here.

2005-07-26 [Whim]: What I proposed earlier was that the EPI should cover more Elfpack related news. The EPI should have people watching contests, guard and council affairs, bannings, and other random happenings. The EPI should be the first to tell the public what they want to know about all the important stuff around EP.

2005-07-26 [Dwemer]: I say we need Graphic Artists to nice up the magazine.

2005-07-26 [Tear]: Joost, have you seen our site yet? And Whim, that isn't a bad idea, not bad at all.

2005-07-26 [iCh3wi]: For a better explanation, go to Page 2 or 3, Whim and i had this discussion last night.

2005-07-26 [Whim]: The only thing you can’t do here is make pretty little graphics and borders and such. A website gives you design freedom, but you already have the freedom to make whatever words you want to make available to the public.

2005-07-26 [Tear]: I know that much. That is what I meant when i said we were limited. I say we should add something like Gossip and EP Events, and then EP occurances.

2005-07-26 [Dwemer]: Tear. I haven't seen it, could you give me the URL?

2005-07-26 [iCh3wi]: And Whims idea of people getting banned and promotions and demotions, thats super mifty

2005-07-26 [Tear]: I'll have to find it amongst the messages that kate has sent me, and i am not sure she wants me showing it out yet, but yeah, it is no where near done.

2005-07-26 [Dwemer]: I hope that's going to work, an off EP website, I really do...

2005-07-26 [Tear]: You have the link, and speaking of the EPI, remember that conversation we had about the ownership of the pages that are in my section? I just realized a big problem. Can you change the ownership of all of them back to me?

2005-07-26 [Dwemer]: They are on your name ;) Or not?

2005-07-26 [Tear]: Nope. Not the music reviews section, and I need the ownership of all the reviews in my name as well. I'll check the other pages to see which other ones aren't.

2005-07-26 [Dwemer]: All the reviews?? I had them on your name, and you wanted it different. ??

2005-07-26 [Tear]: No, they aren't on my name. They are still in the writers names. And I need the main reviews page to be put under me as well. EP Independent- Reviews

2005-07-26 [Dwemer]: Hello ? I had them on your name, but then you wanted me to change everything back. So you now do want me to put everything on your name ?

2005-07-26 [Tear]: I thought I asked you to just leave the ones that you already changed before.. Oh well, sorry man, but yeah, I need them in my name, if it isn't too much trouble.

2005-07-26 [Dwemer]: No it isn't, but 1 more time, you want all pages within EP Independent- Reviews on your name correct?

2005-07-26 [Tear]: Yes sir. This time, it is final. I shouldn't need you to change anything afterwards.

2005-07-26 [Dwemer]: That wouldn't be any problem, I just didn't want to change pages without your approvel! LOL ^_^

2005-07-26 [Tear]: Yeah, I need them all in my possession. but that means that one or two of my writers can't see the stuff they put up. Oh well, I need to get them access to the forum.

2005-07-26 [Dwemer]: I believe it's all in your name now.

2005-07-26 [Tear]: Thanks, joost. now I have to go and switch it so people can't view the pages.

2005-07-26 [Dwemer]: ;) okees.

2005-07-26 [Solitiaum]: Brett, as much as I love you as a friend and all, please do not come in here critisizing my operation. There are things that need to be done before we can start expanding that, no offense, you have not a clue about. As for the website, AJ, its ok to show the link to the staff members. And its actually very very near completion, as all that needs to be done is the content plugged in. Also, [Hedda] has offered me webspace on the Krill box, or whatever T.F. he's using nowadays, so eventually all pages will probably need to be emailed to him. Now. I want my web design team to send me messages with their email adresses so that I can arrange invitations to g-mail. This is because the sending and

2005-07-26 [Tear]: Will do darling. I am still doing content, yes? Because i think it would be a lot easier if the pages were just set up, and i can just plug everything in in the raw html. Though I have dreamweaver, thanks to you.

2005-07-26 [Solitiaum]: attaching limits are much much higher than any other free email server. Problem is, its invite only. If you HAVE a g-mail account already, LET ME KNOW. My web design team currently includes AJ and Joost, FYI. Dela, I'll need yours as well, since you will be acting in my stead should something happen to me irl, especially now that I have a job again. Capishe?

2005-07-26 [Tear]: Yes ma'am.

2005-07-26 [Whim]: Well, you're more than welcome to offer constructive criticism on any of my operations.

2005-07-26 [Tear]: I KNOW I DO! Everynow and then, though it usually ends up in ideas that i think are original that you guys have already had....

2005-07-26 [Whim]: hehe...don’t feel bad about that. We’ve got ideas out the ass, it’s just getting such a complex game--which isn’t really that complex, by the way--to function quickly and seemlessly.

2005-07-26 [Solitiaum]: Duly noted, and if you will remember, I have taken your advice in the past. Now is just not the time to expand.

2005-07-26 [Tear]: Yeah, what the Boss Ladeh said, so bugger off, lol.

2005-07-26 [Whim]: Well, I was merely stating what I believed, either way. It’s my opinion that the EPI crew keeps getting distracted by frills and such instead of trying to create an interesting and creative piece of work. I’m baffled by it because you have so many good people on the team.

2005-07-26 [De'ladrei]: speaking of which...where the hell has half my team gone O.O!

2005-07-26 [Tear]: Why thankyou Whimmypoo. Right now, the website is our big project, once we have that up and running I think then would be a good time to be suggesting things, but that is our main priority at the moment. Umm... kate, i need the name of the domain and the password and username thingy again, unless it is going to be put on Krill.

2005-07-26 [Tear]: I'M HERE DELA! I am still trying to get you more people for the Poetry crew.

2005-07-26 [Solitiaum]: I would tend to agree, but the reason for not expanding right now does not even really include the off EP website. There are sections that have sat unedited since the first edition, or damned near, and there are sections that have strayed from their original intent. I am merely correcting these issues before taking on more.

2005-07-26 [Tear]: Oh, yeah, nevermind what I said. yeah, Kate is right. I have only been getting reviews really late in the month, and it barely gives me time to edit my wiki's. Shoot, i think at the moment, my only active worker is [Monika] and she sent me three reviews and she hasn't even been here for a month yet.

2005-07-26 [De'ladrei]: A.J. I need no more people on poetry ta, I will still consider your friend from the other day, but its getting too big a crew for what it is lol

2005-07-26 [Tear]: I have been getting one each month from [Angel Dove] and [The Axe Effect]. And if that is the case, Dela, i will only be putting poems up on the featured peoples list for you to look over.

2005-07-26 [De'ladrei]: Constance has sent me her work for the month too on the poetry section, she works well

2005-07-26 [Tear]: Yes, she does.

2005-07-26 [Solitiaum]: If she keeps it up, she might see a promotion.

2005-07-26 [Whim]: well, if you have sections that remain blank, then yes, you do have a problem. It’s probably got to do with a lack of interest on the part of the workers or the readers or both. You probably have more workers on the EPI than any other part of EP. All of them do not need to concern themselves with the off EP website. All your problems are not caused by faulty sections, they’re caused by faulty ideas of how the EPI should operate.

2005-07-26 [Tear]: I have sections that are blank because I had the idea of putting them ip, but no one ever showed an interest in them, so I left them as derelict.

2005-07-26 [De'ladrei]: ...I thought I asked for those wikis to be hidden until we had stuff to get put on them?

2005-07-26 [Whim]: exactly my point. So what you need are sections that are interesting. If you don’t like your section, then why would the reader like your section?

2005-07-26 [De'ladrei]: It creates a bad image and a look of not being able to work

2005-07-26 [Tear]: I forgot to get rid of them, sorry love, I'll get rid of them right now

2005-07-26 [Solitiaum]: I will repeat myself once more, then politely request that this conversation be terminated. Expansion of the EPI will not continue until we have what we have under control. Am I clear?

2005-07-26 [Tear]: Yes ma'am

2005-07-26 [De'ladrei]: Kate want me to send out a dealine reminder?

2005-07-26 [Solitiaum]: Please and thank you.

2005-07-26 [De'ladrei]: yw *toddles off*

2005-07-26 [Solitiaum]: Now I have about 4 computers to fix up... So I will bid you all adeau, even though I KNOW I didnt spell that right... -.o;

2005-07-26 [De'ladrei]: night kate

2005-07-26 [Tear]: **adieu darling. And i sent you the thing you asked me to send,

2005-07-26 [Whim]: Oh, goody, I can talk again and no one will tell me to stop...hehe.

2005-07-26 [Tear]: Lol, We never said you couldn't, Kate is being Kate, *hides from shrapnel* We don't mind it when we have things together, but at the time being, things are a bit lax here at the EPI and we have to deal with that.

2005-07-26 [Whim]: oh, I know. But I stand by everything I said. Of course, Kate will probably never realize how right I am. She's great, but stubborn as hell...hehe.

2005-07-26 [Nevermore.]: i can help if anything needs done

2005-07-26 [Tear]: I like her being stubborn. Better then being an ass about things, I think. I'd rather have her be stubborn then ornery. And if she doesn't see it, the rest of us can gradually work on her, because I, for one think you had some excellent ideas. but Yeah, cutting this convo short here, because I am in enough trouble as is.

2005-07-26 [Whim]: Help me make more unwanted suggestions.

2005-07-26 [Nevermore.]: o.0 y?

2005-07-26 [Whim]: Ha! I laugh at trouble. I grab trouble and kick it in the testicles.

2005-07-26 [Whim]: Cause it's a job. That's why...hehe.

2005-07-26 [Tear]: I will, but i will send them in through ways that are more likely to be taken into consideration, lol, That is what Dela is here for. ^_-

2005-07-26 [Whim]: Well, I'm not an employee so I can't get fired.

2005-07-26 [Whim]: It makes me the perfect scapegoat.

2005-07-26 [Nevermore.]: lol!

2005-07-26 [Tear]: I think i saw a wiki called "Blame Whim" or something like that, I got a kick out of it too.

2005-07-26 [Whim]: hehe...yeah. It's cause I'm so lovable.

2005-07-26 [Nevermore.]: so is there anything need ing done?

2005-07-26 [Tear]: Have you seen it? i should put some stuff up on that list. Like having my children...eating my dog....etc.

2005-07-26 [Whim]: Yeah, I've seen it. I advertised on it and got in trouble for it.

2005-07-26 [Tear]: LOL! And I don't think that anything needs to be done until Kate comes back.

2005-07-26 [Nevermore.]: ok *sits and watches*

2005-07-26 [Tear]: *pats head* Good girl!

2005-07-26 [Nevermore.]: me? good?..since when? *grins evily*

2005-07-26 [De'ladrei]: i knew my ears were burning, why do i get the dirty jobs? other than the fact i am fire proof bullet proof etc etc and dont care if people yell at me?

2005-07-26 [Tear]: Because we love you, dear.

2005-07-26 [De'ladrei]: hah now thats a lie if ever i saw one

2005-07-26 [Tear]: YOU DOUBT ME!?!?!?! I confess my undying love for you and all you can say is I am lying? *sob*

2005-07-26 [De'ladrei]: *pats on the back* you'll get over it :p

2005-07-26 [Tear]: FINE! No more alcohol induced bunneh sex for you! See how you like that!

2005-07-26 [Tear]: Why do I get the feeling that I have just taken up the female role in this "relationship"? lol

2005-07-26 [De'ladrei]: hehe ah well *wanders off to find her other rabbit bunny* o.o

2005-07-26 [De'ladrei]: maybe because you have lol

2005-07-26 [Tear]: puh-shaw! I so have not! HOLD UP! You have another rabbit? OH HELLZ NAH!

2005-07-26 [De'ladrei]: yes, yes you have :p *runs off with A.J.s pants* hehe woops there goes my secret >.>

2005-07-26 [Tear]: AND YOU ARE STEALING MY PANTS!!!! Wait, I am female now? *looks down* NOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!

2005-07-26 [WangMaster P]: *steals A.J.'s pants from Dela*

2005-07-26 [De'ladrei]: hehe as amusing as this is i am going to bed, im a sleepy bunny who needs her rest. night a.j

2005-07-26 [Tear]: G'night loverly.

2005-07-27 [Solitiaum]: *mock glare* I SAW that, Brett... *smerches him* Luckily for you I tend to find your antics semi amusing...

2005-07-27 [Tear]: Kate! Fi stole may pants!

2005-07-27 [Whim]: Well, I do make the amusing just for you, dear. ^_^

2005-07-27 [Tear]: Suck up.... *mumbles*

2005-07-27 [Whim]: You're just jealous of my mad negotiation skills.

2005-07-27 [Tear]: Mad negotiation skills? Puh lease, mine are better, because they get me banned, lol. People have to get rid of me for me to stop, Anywho i am gone for the moment.

2005-07-27 [Whim]: hehe...I guess that's the difference then.

2005-07-27 [De'ladrei]: just a tad of a difference yes *throws a.j's pants back at him*

2005-07-27 [Tear]: WHEE! I have my pants back. Dela you missed it, i was drunk off my ass yesterday when I got home.

2005-07-27 [Nevermore.]: *blinks* o.0

2005-07-27 [De'ladrei]: ...fun

2005-07-27 [Tear]: Actually, I need to get a hose to clean the vomit off the sidewalk in front of my apartment.

2005-07-27 [rock bottom]: hello

2005-07-27 [Tear]: The purpose of that was what?

2005-07-27 [Dwemer]: Annoy us ?

2005-07-27 [Tear]: Methinks it were, George.

2005-07-27 [Dwemer]: George 0_o ?

2005-07-27 [Tear]: Nevermind.

2005-07-27 [Dwemer]: Better.

2005-07-27 [Tear]: I wonder if that member realizes they spelled psycho wrong in their username.

2005-07-27 [Dwemer]: I don't think so :/

2005-07-27 [Tear]: Lol. I am putting pictures of myself up, hee hee hee, take a look Enter The Wong

2005-07-31 [De'ladrei]:

3 days to deadline people

2005-07-31 [iCh3wi]: oooooooooo!! Fun.

2005-07-31 [De'ladrei]: yuppers, everyones sections better be done...says she who hasnt got all her s done het o.O

2005-07-31 [Tear]: Oiy me, Dela, we haven't got a shot in the world of having the site up in three days. Possibly,,,POSSIBLY, by next issue, but that means no one can put in content at the last minute.

2005-07-31 [De'ladrei]: Tear love I didnt want the "site" up in three days, that goes up when we finsih it and when we finsih it alone. Its THIS site im worried about

2005-07-31 [Tear]: Oh, okay then. Because when it comes, it comes, lol, Anywho, I am off for the moment.

2005-07-31 [Dwemer]: Hell yeah, but we'll manage, like always.

2005-07-31 [Tear]: Speaking of which, I haven't heckled my writers yet this month, and I said i wouldn't until the day before deadline to see who is actually working. Joost whatever happened to those game reviews that I had up? The ones that I did for gamepro?

2005-07-31 [Tear]: Nevermind that last comment, Joost.

2005-07-31 [Dwemer]: I didn't removed any review [Tear]...

2005-07-31 [Dwemer]: Oh lol ;)

2005-07-31 [Tear]: Lol, do you want to keep up the ones that you had up before? So long as the credit goes there, I am fine with it.

2005-07-31 [Dwemer]: Dela, the Harbringers list needs another fix. I took over the competition Section from [NeMo :D] not long ago.

2005-07-31 [Tear]: Yeah, and when is [owly] ever coming back?

2005-07-31 [Dwemer]: Yes I'll look em up again. I'm having more on my notebook (one without IT damned) so I'll present them tomorrow ;)

2005-07-31 [Tear]: I think I have the one on splinter cell and revenge of the sith on my notes page, but I have to go, I'll check them out later and post them up for you, just give me the writers names.

2005-07-31 [De'ladrei]: sorry joost i meant to do that earlier but i had to go out. [owly] is on long term sabbatical...she might come back i do not know

2005-07-31 [Dwemer]: Right [Tear] and Dela, I can fix that Comptetion thing myself. But [owly] I don't know about her, but frankly, she is gone to long already.

2005-07-31 [iCh3wi]: Well, I'm off to go beat up my sister [Katriel] so she will get to work instead of fooling around with band.

2005-07-31 [De'ladrei]: lmao oh dear >.< and dwem i think you might be right

2005-07-31 [Dwemer]: So I suggest I send her a message ?

2005-07-31 [iCh3wi]: Hey, I have a new section for the EPI Quotes, does it sound remotely underdstandable to anyone?

2005-07-31 [Dwemer]: The EPI Quotes is a section... ??

2005-07-31 [Dwemer]: So what do you mean?

2005-07-31 [iCh3wi]: No, I mean there is a new.......hmm...category I guess, in the EPI Quotes area.

2005-07-31 [Dwemer]: Current Events quotes ?

2005-07-31 [De'ladrei]: oh gods with the confusioness

2005-07-31 [iCh3wi]: Yeah, that one Joost, does it sound ok?

2005-07-31 [Dwemer]: Yes. A bit like my section ? I think that was what you wanted, right ?

2005-07-31 [Tear]: Oiy me. I guess it would make some sense.

2005-07-31 [iCh3wi]: Yup, thats where I got the idea, hope its ok with you.

2005-07-31 [Dwemer]: Of course :) So I have to say, good name you picked Richard ;)

2005-07-31 [iCh3wi]: Lolol, thanks.

2005-07-31 [De'ladrei]: glad thats sorted

2005-07-31 [Dwemer]: Yeah, I was a bit confuzled ;)

2005-07-31 [iCh3wi]: I always am.

2005-07-31 [Dwemer]: I'm dying from pain here AJ, but I noticed I made a mistake concerning [Love like Winter.].

2005-07-31 [Tear]: I thought I deleted the message i sent you. I asked Dela, and she said she gave you a list of people to put up. [Love like Winter.] no longer works for me, if she ever did, because i never recieved any content from her for the entire time that I have been boss of reviews, because she was among my first employees.

2005-07-31 [Dwemer]: So I should remove her badge, and you did removed the message, I saw the change in the HB's list...*dies of pain* So you want me to remove it ?

2005-07-31 [Tear]: That isn't up to me. If she doesn't work in any other sections, yes, but if she does, then ask Dela.

2005-07-31 [De'ladrei]: ill do it her badge will be removed

2005-07-31 [Tear]: Thanks, dear.

2005-07-31 [Dwemer]: Thanks dear :)

2005-07-31 [Tear]: COPY CAT!

2005-07-31 [De'ladrei]: hehe aww

2005-07-31 [Tear]: That was funny

2005-07-31 [Dwemer]: That was funny :)

2005-07-31 [Tear]: MY LORD! Joost!!!! *waves banstick of doom*

2005-07-31 [Dwemer]: Did you just call me your Lord ?

2005-07-31 [Tear]: maybe...... me lordy!!!

2005-07-31 [Dwemer]: lol ;)

2005-07-31 [De'ladrei]: oh gods

2005-07-31 [Dwemer]: [Tear] did Dela just called us Gods ?

2005-07-31 [De'ladrei]: i didnt capitalise it so no :P

2005-07-31 [Dwemer]: Damn ^_-

2005-07-31 [iCh3wi]: Fiona is EPI"S Substitue God.

2005-07-31 [Dwemer]: *chinese sounds* Hell yeah :)

2005-07-31 [MarieFair]: lol...^^

2005-07-31 [Dwemer]: *turns on Soul record* *swings* how random ^^

2005-07-31 [iCh3wi]: *turns on techno*

2005-07-31 [De'ladrei]: o.O wtf

2005-07-31 [Dwemer]: Otis Redding beats techno ;)

2005-07-31 [Tear]: WHAT ABOUT CHINESE SOUNDS!!?!?!? Dela is my Goddess.

2005-07-31 [Dwemer]: Chinese sounds are calming *caaaalllmmmmeeeeddd* You see ?